Snw's OFFICIAL 280Z turbo build thread - SMPYWD!
#26
Before you it apart put it in the oven at 375 degrees for an hour. They assemble them with lock tight and it will fail at 350. You can also have the shop face some material off the end of the bolts. Make sure it runs true and then reassemble it with lock tight. The shim can be aluminum sheet cut out like a large washer. You drill one hole through and put a bolt in. Then yo use the flywheel bolt circle for a template. Take it apart and deburr the holes. Another note is the stock turbo pistons are dished. You have flat tops. I think your compression ratio is about 9-1 or more.
#27
It's already apart. Thanks, but i'm guessing someone already did that on this one because it came apart with no hassle at all.
Also, I noticed the flat tops today, I am REALLY confused as to how that happened... I am very very confused, I do have another block with dished pistons in it, however it's an N42 block... I could switch them. or I could just get a 2mm HG. I have turbo'd and NA F54 block before and it actually ran great. but it was also at stock boost the entire time. So maybe i'll just leave them... quicker spool. haha. I'll have a nice large IC up front so intake temps won't be an issue, honestly the only thing that worries me about the flat tops is if/when I go to higher boost levels.
speaking of which, anyone out there got a thick MLS HG. lol. i dont wanna pay for the kameari one!!!! its tooo damn expensive! Every company that prices those products from that company is smoking crack!!!!
Also, I noticed the flat tops today, I am REALLY confused as to how that happened... I am very very confused, I do have another block with dished pistons in it, however it's an N42 block... I could switch them. or I could just get a 2mm HG. I have turbo'd and NA F54 block before and it actually ran great. but it was also at stock boost the entire time. So maybe i'll just leave them... quicker spool. haha. I'll have a nice large IC up front so intake temps won't be an issue, honestly the only thing that worries me about the flat tops is if/when I go to higher boost levels.
speaking of which, anyone out there got a thick MLS HG. lol. i dont wanna pay for the kameari one!!!! its tooo damn expensive! Every company that prices those products from that company is smoking crack!!!!
Last edited by snwbrderphat540; 12-21-2010 at 08:21 PM.
#29
The F54 block was used on some other 280zx na cars. I saw a '79 na with the F54 in the junk yard. It also had the hole for the knock sensor but no sensor. I'm going to start mine next month but I think I will spring for the gasket.
#31
#33
So here is another question, now it is possible I just never paid any attention the the valve springs in any other heads of mine and they were all like this, but I coulda SWORE they were all single spring. But the P90 I have is a double spring setup... this standard? lol. speaking of which got the head back
gooooooosh do I wanna port those intake runners so bad, but am fearful of touching a head. especially since the valves are back in it...
this is "one" of my work tables
anyone want to buy a turbo intake mani with all the gay crap blocked off already and soon to have the webbing removed?
this piston says STD P79...
valve cover getting cleaned up
and exhaust mani painted
it'll prob get exhaust wrapped to since I need all the heat insulation I can get thanks to the monster turbooooo.
just ordered ARP con rod bolts and rod bearings. put in a offer on a kameari HG and ARP head studs.
ok here is another question, what is the NA cam that everyone is so batshit crazy over sticking into their turbo head cause it works sooooooo well supposedly?
gooooooosh do I wanna port those intake runners so bad, but am fearful of touching a head. especially since the valves are back in it...
this is "one" of my work tables
anyone want to buy a turbo intake mani with all the gay crap blocked off already and soon to have the webbing removed?
this piston says STD P79...
valve cover getting cleaned up
and exhaust mani painted
it'll prob get exhaust wrapped to since I need all the heat insulation I can get thanks to the monster turbooooo.
just ordered ARP con rod bolts and rod bearings. put in a offer on a kameari HG and ARP head studs.
ok here is another question, what is the NA cam that everyone is so batshit crazy over sticking into their turbo head cause it works sooooooo well supposedly?
#34
Wrap the header before you put it on. There is a good article on turboing the L6 on Zhome.com. Predetonation is the mortal enemy of the turbo engine. A megasquirtnspark would be a good investment. Boost retard and even water injection quench.
#35
never read zhome.com will definitely look over it all. But yeah I will wrap the header prior to putting it on haha. For now I am using stock electronics at stock boost just to make sure everything is working fine. Then I may go Z31 ecu upgrade with nistune for tuning or maybe haltech or SDS. lately it seems alot of people are turning away from MS because it isn't very efficient nor the best standalone progrma to start with. So I have my doubts about going with it. Though for the price it is hard to beat.
Alos big shout out if ANYONE is wanting a 1.6mm (that's .1mm larger than a stock HG) Kameari MLS head gasket and ARP head studs, I offered this guy 350 bucks and he accepted. well, they actually, they are a somewhat reputable tuner shop in texas and I'm guessing they stocked up on a few datusn L series parts, mainly a few ARP items and a few sets of 3 different thickness head gaskets and now can't sell them locally. here is the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/L28-2...item35ab3036fc
and at a 1.6mm HG with ARP studs for only 350, that's 30 dollars more than what thezstore sells that gasket for alone!. lol.
and here is their other stuff incase anyone wanted a thinner gasket
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/__?_from...ri+l28&_sacat=
Alos big shout out if ANYONE is wanting a 1.6mm (that's .1mm larger than a stock HG) Kameari MLS head gasket and ARP head studs, I offered this guy 350 bucks and he accepted. well, they actually, they are a somewhat reputable tuner shop in texas and I'm guessing they stocked up on a few datusn L series parts, mainly a few ARP items and a few sets of 3 different thickness head gaskets and now can't sell them locally. here is the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/L28-2...item35ab3036fc
and at a 1.6mm HG with ARP studs for only 350, that's 30 dollars more than what thezstore sells that gasket for alone!. lol.
and here is their other stuff incase anyone wanted a thinner gasket
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/__?_from...ri+l28&_sacat=
Last edited by snwbrderphat540; 12-22-2010 at 03:26 PM.
#36
So here is another question, now it is possible I just never paid any attention the the valve springs in any other heads of mine and they were all like this, but I coulda SWORE they were all single spring. But the P90 I have is a double spring setup... this standard? lol. speaking of which got the head back
#37
Now why the F cam? it has hardly any differences than the turbo cams, seems the A cam would be a better choice... maybe even the C cam. Though Im pretty sure I only have A cams.
Also, BAHAHAHAHA at me for never ever realizing there has always been an inner and outer spring on every Z I've owned and motor I have torn into...
Also, BAHAHAHAHA at me for never ever realizing there has always been an inner and outer spring on every Z I've owned and motor I have torn into...
#38
The cam duration, and timing for open/close is different for n/a and turbo cams.
From the numbers, the F cam will have the same duration, but the intake & exhaust timing is slightly different...
So crunch the numbers... or just dyno the two cams.
From the numbers, the F cam will have the same duration, but the intake & exhaust timing is slightly different...
So crunch the numbers... or just dyno the two cams.
#39
So you claim that the slightly different timing yet same exact duration and lift is more beneficial, than a cam with similar timing as the turbo cams yet more lift and duration.... hmmmm.... idk.... I demand a mechanical engineer to chime in!
#40
Paint paint paint! Just a start, need some primer before the finders and hood get sprayed with color. It's candy apple red. It's very metallic to, didn't expect that. And this isn't my color choice... I wanted to go with this color:
But my opinion apparently didn't matter since this color was already ordered without my knowledge... grrr!!!! But it's actually still a nice color. I do like it, just not as much as I think I would have LOVED that odd green...
I'll post up more pics when it is finished. needs A LOT more clear on the car, that first coat is scary thin... Plus once everything is sprayed I'm sure we will slap the fenders and hatch on and maybe the doors shortly after.
But my opinion apparently didn't matter since this color was already ordered without my knowledge... grrr!!!! But it's actually still a nice color. I do like it, just not as much as I think I would have LOVED that odd green...
I'll post up more pics when it is finished. needs A LOT more clear on the car, that first coat is scary thin... Plus once everything is sprayed I'm sure we will slap the fenders and hatch on and maybe the doors shortly after.
#45
Shoulda done it that way...