Really hot fuse
#3
The bulbs i changed to oe and the fuses are the proper ones called for in the fsm. Ill change them to led for now but i have never had a fuse just melt over time like this. This is the problem with buying a car that some one has monkeyed with the wiring on
#6
Your car is nearing 40 years old. Rubber gets old and degrades. Moisture builds. corrosion forms. The corrosion builds up to the point where it provides an alternate current path, dropping the resistance of the circuit gradually and increasing the current flow. Since the increase is gradual, it won't pop the fuse like you would want.
The problem is that the car is OLD.
The problem is that the car is OLD.
#7
Old z car problems
Your car is nearing 40 years old. Rubber gets old and degrades. Moisture builds. corrosion forms. The corrosion builds up to the point where it provides an alternate current path, dropping the resistance of the circuit gradually and increasing the current flow. Since the increase is gradual, it won't pop the fuse like you would want.
The problem is that the car is OLD.
The problem is that the car is OLD.
#8
Well i just thought since an entire kit was made for the parking light relays alone there was an inherent problem with that section of wiring or those relays. But you're all right i probably just need to freshen everything up.
#9
The relay kits take stress off of the switches. Why is this important? Relays have a much higher resistance than the parking light circuit, and they have a lower inrush current than the parking light circuit.
The contacts on the combo switch see the current when you turn on the lights. Dust and debris will burn from the heat at the contacts, giving the contacts a light carbon coating. This coating will not conduct electricity very well and decreases the amount of surface area available on the contact to conduct electricity. This will cause more localized heating and carbon buildup. Enough of this, and the switch will heat up and act like a load. Since this load is in series with your lights, they will have less voltage and less light.
Power, and therefore heating is proportional to voltage and current. If you drop the current by using relays, you will not build up carbon on the switch contacts. This will greatly extend the life of the switch.
You can get a SPDT relay for about $5. A replacement used combo switch will cost $70 or more if it has been properly cleaned and tested. The relay will be new and will last a long time. You can even keep a spare or two in your glovebox.
I doubt the designers of the electrical system in the Z cars were worrying about problems creeping up in the electrical system 20, 30, or 40 years later. However, I will grant that most auto industry practices anymore include using relays on higher current circuits.
The contacts on the combo switch see the current when you turn on the lights. Dust and debris will burn from the heat at the contacts, giving the contacts a light carbon coating. This coating will not conduct electricity very well and decreases the amount of surface area available on the contact to conduct electricity. This will cause more localized heating and carbon buildup. Enough of this, and the switch will heat up and act like a load. Since this load is in series with your lights, they will have less voltage and less light.
Power, and therefore heating is proportional to voltage and current. If you drop the current by using relays, you will not build up carbon on the switch contacts. This will greatly extend the life of the switch.
You can get a SPDT relay for about $5. A replacement used combo switch will cost $70 or more if it has been properly cleaned and tested. The relay will be new and will last a long time. You can even keep a spare or two in your glovebox.
I doubt the designers of the electrical system in the Z cars were worrying about problems creeping up in the electrical system 20, 30, or 40 years later. However, I will grant that most auto industry practices anymore include using relays on higher current circuits.
#11
I upgraded to the Dapper Lighting HID kit, back when it was first in group buy on HybridZ so I have full relays and everything for my headlights, but I also later found that the connector under the dash that goes to my light switch stalk was melted looking and was getting pretty warm/hot when the parking lights were on. I changed all the fuses and purchased the heavy duty parking light upgrade from MSA and all my lights are brighter, plus that connector no longer heats up.
#13
fuse overheating
If you take out the fuse block, ion the backside of the fuse block you will probably see that the wires that are crimped to the fuse holders are green or dark brown instead of shiny copper. This is a form of copper corrosion and what is happening is that the conducting area of the wire connection has gotten so small due to the corrosion, that you are actually conducting all of the current through a very small area, as if the 14 gauge wire were a 22 gauge wire. The smaller contact area has higher resistance and generates heat according to the equation I^2R, where I is the current and R is the net resistance, including the interference of the corrosion.
The traditional fix of using relays works because the control circuit of the relays draw less current than the lights that were there before. As the corrosion continues to build up, even the lesser current draw of the relay control circuit will cause the fuse holder to heat up and melt is self out of the plastic fuse panel.
The traditional fix of using relays works because the control circuit of the relays draw less current than the lights that were there before. As the corrosion continues to build up, even the lesser current draw of the relay control circuit will cause the fuse holder to heat up and melt is self out of the plastic fuse panel.
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