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Old 12-15-2006 | 11:16 AM
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about to throw in the towel

I'm about to throw in the towel on my Z. She started fine yesterday minus the black smoke. Now she will not start again. I have to move her sence I live on a millitary base. I checked all of the connections and plugs and wires. I have fuel air and spark... what the hell!!!! i'm almost to the point of just giving her away or junking her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 12-15-2006 | 11:29 AM
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dude it wouldnt be a Z if it was easy.... remember these are old cars wit thier own stuborn attitudes so just hit it wit a wrench if that dont work then u can junk it
Old 12-15-2006 | 11:33 AM
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It won't start because it's prolly flooded. Clamp off the fuel line just after the fuel filter, hop in the car, press gas pedal to the floor & crank till it starts.
Old 12-15-2006 | 11:34 AM
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yeah its not flooded... i tried that already. I know its a fuel problem of some sort. I have to get her smogged and registered or the base is going to tow it and junk it...
Old 12-15-2006 | 11:36 AM
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If it's a fuel prob, it's either too lean or too rich... black smoke doesn't usually mean too lean. CHTS could be wacked (on the plug isn't connecting properly).
Old 12-15-2006 | 11:40 AM
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Skittle man, don't give up my friend. I wish I was closer to help you out. I don't really know what it could be. It is going to be something simple, I guranttee it man. Did you clean all the electrical connectors thoroughly? A quick way is to use Wd-40, and a brush, and let them dry. So clean one, and then clean another, while it is drying. If you had it kind of running yesterday, it has to something simple. Also if it is blowing black smoke, that means it is rich. You are getting too much fuel in the cylinders, and fouling out the plugs. How new is your AFM? That is what happened to my Z earlier this year. My AFM was no good, and caused the ECU to dump more fuel. Because it couldn't read the AFM. When I was ready to throw in the towel. I was really frustrated like you are now. But great people on here, did what it took to get my Z running. We will do the same for you. Basically for me, it was another AFM, that got me running. Also check the AFM plug, and make sure the contacts are clean.

Then get back to us, we will get your Z running yet dude. Don't give up, people on here didn't with me. So we aren't giving up on you, and let you fail. Keep us up bro'.
Old 12-15-2006 | 12:43 PM
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thanks i'll try cleaning all of the plugs to see what happens. the afm is brand new. and i have no chts on a 79.
Old 12-15-2006 | 04:47 PM
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I know it sounds really stupid, but make sure the AFM is actually PLUGGED IN. I have seen them come unplugged if the little metal retainer clip wasn't perfectly in place...


If that doesn't work, I am going back to my last thought which is to paint it all one color and see what happens


Rod.
Old 12-15-2006 | 04:50 PM
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Lol Its All Primer Right Now.. Lol
Old 12-15-2006 | 04:52 PM
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That's a good start...
Old 12-16-2006 | 01:35 AM
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Clean the negative and positive battery connections if you have not yet.
Old 12-16-2006 | 08:46 AM
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dont junk it!!!! you have to finish making it another skittle color!!!!! then drive it!!!!! with pix!!!!!

besides, if you do--think of all the nitemares you will miss.........
Old 12-16-2006 | 10:26 AM
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Don't be a weenie. You can find and fix the problem... I KNOW you can.

It's going to be something small, stupid and irritating... Kinda like Nismo619 (Except for the "small' part).


Now, get out there and fix your car!



Rod.
Old 12-16-2006 | 10:33 AM
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LOL I HAVE A FRIEND COMING OVER TOMARROW TO HELP TROUBLE SHOOT IT. HES SORT OF AN ELECTRICAL GENEUS... (Sp?)
Old 12-16-2006 | 12:14 PM
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Do it.


DO IT!




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Old 12-16-2006 | 02:39 PM
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im waiting for my wiring harness so i can put it in and try to start up my car... im waiting to find out the carbs are ****. lol... but i got me a 4bbl mani fold comin i believe...
Old 12-16-2006 | 02:50 PM
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Dont Give Up On Our Babys.. There All Around 20 Yr Old Cars.. But There All Soo Damn Sekzii And Just Want To Be Modded Uppp.. If Neone Can Help Me Out With A Question I Have About Directly Welding A 20 Inch N1 Universal Muffler On To Our Stock 86 300zx's. If It Can Be Done That Way With No Problems Then Thatd Be Great Cause I Can Et Welding Labor Done Cheap.. I Need Some 411 Peeps. Neone Have The Same Thought? Gehbackahmee..

P.s. The Stock Muffler From Out To Inner Tip Is About 27 Inches Long.. Thats Y I Was Curious If Neone Juss Slapped On One W/out Neproblems Or U Need Additional Piping? Or Just Get Longer Exhaust.. But If Ever I Want A 4 Inch Burnt Tip N1 Non Slanted Tip Muffler. Thankyah
Old 12-16-2006 | 02:53 PM
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wellll there was a person... on a 280ZX turbo sabb special... 619..... lol... gentle men resurect pictures.
Old 12-16-2006 | 04:42 PM
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LoL, Your goan give up? After the **** i went though to get mine going for over a year. Your gona give up? Pffffffft. Don't make me drive up there and put my foot up your *** to get that sprite can goin.
Old 12-16-2006 | 05:21 PM
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do it fub... stick your size ____ foot up his ***. or.... just cheap it up and go carb.... lol.. ok dont do that. but still... man, just revamp your fuel system.. its time to upgrade obviously go out (unless already done) re-do your connectors. as in replace them. replace wires and stuff if you can. make sure your AFM is good. maybe you jsut need to replace it/rebuild it. spark plugs are good... fuel pump is running good. pressure regulator fuel dampener. man. jsut work your way through the ****. timing is done right. coil is good. distributor is good. as in the points and rotor. spark plug wires are good. man. just look at everything that keeps the car running.
Old 12-16-2006 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 86z31drifter
Dont Give Up On Our Babys.. There All Around 20 Yr Old Cars.. But There All Soo Damn Sekzii And Just Want To Be Modded Uppp.. If Neone Can Help Me Out With A Question I Have About Directly Welding A 20 Inch N1 Universal Muffler On To Our Stock 86 300zx's. If It Can Be Done That Way With No Problems Then Thatd Be Great Cause I Can Et Welding Labor Done Cheap.. I Need Some 411 Peeps. Neone Have The Same Thought? Gehbackahmee..

P.s. The Stock Muffler From Out To Inner Tip Is About 27 Inches Long.. Thats Y I Was Curious If Neone Juss Slapped On One W/out Neproblems Or U Need Additional Piping? Or Just Get Longer Exhaust.. But If Ever I Want A 4 Inch Burnt Tip N1 Non Slanted Tip Muffler. Thankyah
my 86 slicky had a bullet exhaust system from express mufflers--sounds good, good air flow, norestrictions and soundds good--i paid less than 200$ for it. didn't even take the guy long to place it.
Old 12-17-2006 | 01:07 PM
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Cool

Originally Posted by z-hag
my 86 slicky had a bullet exhaust system from express mufflers--sounds good, good air flow, norestrictions and soundds good--i paid less than 200$ for it. didn't even take the guy long to place it.
yeah icee.. if i had the money to get the full exhaust system.. then id probably find one for my model... or just get the moza exhaust system.. i can get welding labor for cheap... thats why i only want to spend bout 60 bucks all together.. just get a 30 dollar universal muff.. thats why im askin.. is it bad just to slap on a muffler directly to it.. a lot of restriction? cause my cousin rex just slapped on a muffler on his FC and the only otha thing he got was a replacement cat. converter.. but my question iss.......... is it possible... without worryng about messing anymore of my z up.. i just want a nice muffler slapped on on there.. is that too hard to askk =( without paying for additional shyt... im tryna find the cheapest way possible.. but dont want anymore headachessss... yenno?
Old 12-17-2006 | 03:23 PM
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if your gonna give up skittle, at least give yur car to me, rust free from vegas is something i could get used to. ill even just fly down for msa and drive it home!
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