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Old 03-20-2009, 11:17 AM
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Camber?

Should the back tires on your Z cars have a noticeable negative camber? Or is that a bad thing?

Yes I know my shocks are bad but I think the front is much worse then the back so Im just curios lol
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:31 AM
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The 280zx usually doesn't have any negative rear camber on a stock setup. If any, it's a bit of positive camber.
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:36 AM
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Er... So ya that means my back shocks are more then likely going out too huh? Next paycheck can not come any sooner lol

Negative is facing inward right? to the car? I like the way the car handles like that but it cant be good on the tires
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:40 AM
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Not shocks... the springs. Shocks dampen the bumps, the springs control the rebound, and ride height.

Indeed neg camber is when the tops of the tires point inward.
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Originally Posted by NismoPick
The 280zx usually doesn't have any negative rear camber on a stock setup. If any, it's a bit of positive camber.
Nismo wrong!!!!

280zx's, at least mine (as proven by a hunter hawkeye running winalign software) has several degrees of non adjustable negative camber on the rear wheels stock...

something weird just happened...

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Old 03-20-2009, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 280zx2by2
Nismo wrong!!!!

280zx's, at least mine (as proven by a hunter hawkeye running winalign software) has several degrees of non adjustable negative camber on the rear wheels stock...

something weird just happened...
There is no nonadjustable camber. There is "difficult to adjust" camber
And a little negative camber is a good thing as someone here mentioned I think.
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 280zx2by2
Nismo wrong!!!!

280zx's, at least minehas several degrees of non adjustable negative camber on the rear wheels stock...
How do you even know yours is at stock ride height?
My 280ZX is seemingly stock but it rides really high in back. I'm not the original owner so I can't say what kind of springs are in the car anyway.

Plus, some springs sag over time and you end up with some negative camber.
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... what is the stock ride height? I dont even know
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:58 PM
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My bet is that your springs are just wore out.
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Old 03-20-2009, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bleach
How do you even know yours is at stock ride height?
My 280ZX is seemingly stock but it rides really high in back. I'm not the original owner so I can't say what kind of springs are in the car anyway.

Plus, some springs sag over time and you end up with some negative camber.
if you have ever done an alignment you would know that it gives you the stock measurements for toe, camber, caster and some other one that no one cares about, stock 280zx's have some degree of negative camber on the rears from factory (mine had a little more than factory because of my worn out 25 year-old suspension) but it is NON ADJUSTABLE, yes there is such a thing as non adjustable rear camber (and im not talking about aftermarket camber plates) im talking about the stock system that i assume Bluekitsune has


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And a little negative camber is a good thing
thats why its there from factory, because these are "sports cars"

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Old 03-20-2009, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueKitsune
... what is the stock ride height? I dont even know
i think its 5.7 or 5.9 inches. not sure though, cant find my s130 service manual
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Old 03-20-2009, 05:18 PM
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Ah ok, and thats from ground to frame I take it? and yes I have the stock 30 year old suspension! So Ya lol Thank you!
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Originally Posted by 280zx2by2
Nismo wrong!!!!
Prove me wrong buddy boy.
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warning, blue! don't believe anything 2by2 says unless someone reputable on here agrees/backs him up.
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:44 PM
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lol I have no clue what to say to that.

But I remember hearing elsewhere that Z do have a slight negative camber on the back for handling so he may be right

But mine its really noticeable
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almost any RWD car has slight negative camber, but i mean SLIGHT
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Even a solid axle car!? Yes Im kidding lol but ya this isnt slight this is "What the hell with with your tires?" bad
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Originally Posted by 280zx2by2
it is NON ADJUSTABLE
So even if I adjust the inner pivot points on the control arms by welding or slotting it wont' change anything?

Glad I asked you first though...
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Originally Posted by BlueKitsune
Even a solid axle car!? Yes Im kidding lol but ya this isnt slight this is "What the hell with with your tires?" bad
if your tires sit inside of your fenders a good bit it will apear that you have really negative camber because of the lines of the car, you can get on the ground and look lengthwise down the car and try to judge, or do the straight edge and protractor thing on a level surface
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Originally Posted by Bleach
So even if I adjust the inner pivot points on the control arms by welding or slotting it wont' change anything?

Glad I asked you first though...
your welcome, glad i saved you alot of time buddy
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Prove me wrong buddy boy.
Waiting for you 2by2....
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Originally Posted by NismoPick
Waiting for you 2by2....
it will be on monday when i can print off the sheet from the alignment computer...
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what does that prove? a print off of your car's alignment numbers?
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
what does that prove? a print off of your car's alignment numbers?
again if you had ever done an alignment you would know what im talking about... there is a screen that tells you the manufacturers recomended specifications, no car necessary, just click and print...

epic fail of your noobness snw
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Old 03-21-2009, 11:22 AM
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yeah, so.... it wont say if its adjustable though.... i got alignment sheets in my room, i know what on them. i wanna punch those stupid glasses right into your face right now!



seriously though... those glasses are terrible, they are much to small for your face, make you look like a hippy or something.
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