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09-14-2009, 10:24 PM
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09-14-2009, 10:30 PM
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09-14-2009, 10:47 PM
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get it dray ASAP, pull all your spark plugs at least if your going to wait so it can evaporate. you want the wanter out as fast as possible.
09-14-2009, 10:56 PM
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Anyways, cylinders are full of wd-40 and the plugs are out. I sprayed the cam a bit from the oil fill. And I drained a little from the pan, not much water in the pan which is amazing.
09-14-2009, 11:00 PM
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Why not just pull off the valve cover? Takes like 2 minutes. Then you could shoot some more WD-40 all over. At least some down the chain and what not. It's gonna be a pain to drop the pan with it in the car.
09-14-2009, 11:03 PM
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09-15-2009, 12:05 AM
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Well, saying this as someone who's hydrolocked their motor, it may not be that bad. My excuse is that I was hammered out of my mind and the road was actually washed out but the water level of the river was high enough that it looked like it was just barely covered.
Anyway, the only problem I had was that I fried the starter trying to restart the car in my hazy drunken state. The next day, I pulled all the plugs, replaced the starter, cranked the motor, a TON of water came out. I put the plugs back in and limped it home.
Seems I also fried the AFM...
Anyway, with a good oil change, it was fine for another 50k miles until my friend drove it into a tree at about 50mph...
Anyway, the only problem I had was that I fried the starter trying to restart the car in my hazy drunken state. The next day, I pulled all the plugs, replaced the starter, cranked the motor, a TON of water came out. I put the plugs back in and limped it home.
Seems I also fried the AFM...
Anyway, with a good oil change, it was fine for another 50k miles until my friend drove it into a tree at about 50mph...
09-15-2009, 12:17 AM
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09-15-2009, 03:41 PM
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lol
Well I pulled the head today and. Nothing seems warped or Damaged besides just the head gasket! I didn't even pop a freeze plug thankfully! I'm pretty sure I fried my AFM but I have another one anyways if I did.
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo now I wait.... No jobs and so far no job openings = no income = Z stays broken. Till the Camaro sells and I move
Well I pulled the head today and. Nothing seems warped or Damaged besides just the head gasket! I didn't even pop a freeze plug thankfully! I'm pretty sure I fried my AFM but I have another one anyways if I did.
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo now I wait.... No jobs and so far no job openings = no income = Z stays broken. Till the Camaro sells and I move
09-15-2009, 05:08 PM
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i was going to say, freeze plugs pop when they do as they sound, it gets to cold and the coolant freezes they pop out so the block doesn't crack from the expanding water.
i blew a HG and almost full hydro locked my DSM motor on its own collant, when i tore it down my rods were ok but two pistons were TERRIBLY worn and had some stress cracks around the piston ring retainers. i have a thread here on it, so i just replaced them for free with the same 2 rods and pistons from my buddies galant VR4 got new bearings for them and honed the cylinders got me an evo3 MLS HG put it back together and it has perfect compression without being ran.... then i jumped timing and had to re-rebuild the head lol, ground up rebuild. only old thing in is is the valve springs... but i re-used the MLS head gasket since it only ran for a 1.4 mile total... seems to be doing just fine! though it loses power in the high end and my turbo is shot! F this car.
i blew a HG and almost full hydro locked my DSM motor on its own collant, when i tore it down my rods were ok but two pistons were TERRIBLY worn and had some stress cracks around the piston ring retainers. i have a thread here on it, so i just replaced them for free with the same 2 rods and pistons from my buddies galant VR4 got new bearings for them and honed the cylinders got me an evo3 MLS HG put it back together and it has perfect compression without being ran.... then i jumped timing and had to re-rebuild the head lol, ground up rebuild. only old thing in is is the valve springs... but i re-used the MLS head gasket since it only ran for a 1.4 mile total... seems to be doing just fine! though it loses power in the high end and my turbo is shot! F this car.
09-15-2009, 05:42 PM
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From what I can tell, the pistons seem to be perfectly fine. that engine stopped dead when it hydro locked. Im thinking it sucked in so much into 2 cylinders at once that it locked the engine w/o to much pressure, I see no cracks anywhere.
Anyone know the compression ratio in an N/A with dished pistons and a P90 head? I might put that head on for ***** and giggles sense a head has to goto the machine shop anyways
Anyone know the compression ratio in an N/A with dished pistons and a P90 head? I might put that head on for ***** and giggles sense a head has to goto the machine shop anyways
09-15-2009, 07:14 PM
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From what I can tell, the pistons seem to be perfectly fine. that engine stopped dead when it hydro locked. Im thinking it sucked in so much into 2 cylinders at once that it locked the engine w/o to much pressure, I see no cracks anywhere.
Anyone know the compression ratio in an N/A with dished pistons and a P90 head? I might put that head on for ***** and giggles sense a head has to goto the machine shop anyways
Anyone know the compression ratio in an N/A with dished pistons and a P90 head? I might put that head on for ***** and giggles sense a head has to goto the machine shop anyways
09-15-2009, 08:11 PM
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You do realize that it may not have even hydro locked. It doesn't take much to stall out the motor. For example when you put seafoam in through a vacuum line. Before it gets much out of the can the motor will die. So really it wouldn't take much water in your intake before it can't burn that mixture and then just stall.
The only difference between the P90 and the P79 are as mentioned the Square vs. Round exhaust ports and the fact that for some reason the P90 heads don't have the port for fuel pump that went on the side of the head sealed over.
The only difference between the P90 and the P79 are as mentioned the Square vs. Round exhaust ports and the fact that for some reason the P90 heads don't have the port for fuel pump that went on the side of the head sealed over.
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