Holy Crap...
10-01-2007, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lww
Looks like it's time for a water pump, fan and radiator. Unfortunately, that's actually pretty common when the water pump shaft fails. It let's the fan impact the radiator destroying all three.
I think it is a bit more serious now...there are some impellers missing on the pump and take a look at the block...it gouged it bad...what am I going to do now???
10-01-2007, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by entropy31
White Flag????
I agree, those blades have been gone for a bit....the car was cooling fine before so I will try atleast to put the new pump on and see how it goes...Dido...Sand in my shoes is a good song too.
10-01-2007, 04:32 PM
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Yeah, I don't think the missing water pump blades are as big a problem as it might seem at first. If you were running a high compression "hot" motor, any reduced flow from one of those blades stuck in a water passage might be an issue, but for a bone stock motor, it should be fine even if there is one stuck in there since the shape of the blade will prevent it from completely blocking a water passage. Those missing blades are probably the cause of the broken shaft which let the fan impact the radiator.
10-01-2007, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by duowing
Nismopick isn't going to stop. Also I thought the issues with the Turbo were being taken care of?
And... Apollo, Bleach, Snw, L-Dub and various others of us have all done the swap and can help w/ the few wiring connections.
10-01-2007, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by duowing
Nismopick isn't going to stop. Also I thought the issues with the Turbo were being taken care of?
10-01-2007, 09:33 PM
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hey, i did the wiring in the S30 which is uber simple... s130 though... idk how it goes really.... i assume not TOO different, but differnt non the less. my car didnt start today, its so wierd, i re-did the connection where i have a wire tied into the start signal and boom, fired right up, what the hell is that wire for? i know you should be able to just turn the car to ON and puch start it but it seems like the way i have it wired that without it recieving the start signal it wouldnt start, i have to try that out one of these days...
10-02-2007, 10:17 AM
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I don't think NismoPick really understands that I can't do a swap. I have no money...no trees...no rope...no chains...no engine stands...no engine hoist, and I most certainly can't pick up two fully dressed engines by hand and maneuver them into the opposing engine bays. I would love to have my turbo engine in this car but it isn't going to happen.
10-02-2007, 10:33 AM
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first off, its free to swap motors yourself other than electrical tape and maybe solder... lol. your mechanic buddy that was helping you with the turbo im SURE has or can get an engine hoist, i know i never have a problem getting one for free.
10-02-2007, 12:09 PM
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DAMN RAIN...putting a damper on my swap. I guess I did swap the radiator out of the gold z into the '79 cause it has the two tubes for the auto tranny on the bottom of it. I don't remember doing that swap. I got the fan off of the turbo and I am working on taking out the radiator...after the rain stops. Both the fan and the radiator look perfect from the turbo car.
10-02-2007, 01:26 PM
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OK...Both radiators, water pumps and fans are out! Hot and Humid! The newer water pump shows absolutely no wear as well as the grade 8 bolts I put on it for the fan and pulley. Now I will clean the matting surface on the block and I have already cleaned the pumps surface. I will not be using a paper gasket for the water pump...I used clear silicone on the turbo car and it was more than enough for a gasket and never leaked. Waterproof and flexible. "Temperature range -75°F to 400°F (-59°C to 204°C); resists oil, water, weather, vibration, grease." Clear RTV Silicone Adhesive/Sealant by Permatex.
Now that it is all apart it is a little more fun. Just for future reference, if any of you are changing a water pump...go ahead and take out the radiator...it's a little work but you have way more room to work and play. I did it in this order:
Upper radiator hose - overflow hose - upper fan shroud (Phillips head screw on each side) - fan and clutch (10mm box wrench) - remove water pump pulley ( with the fan off you can take it off without loosening the belts, if you don't have them over tight) - lower radiator hose - remove radiator ( 4 12mm bolts) - water pump (12mm and 10mm socket 2" extension) Pretty easy but you may bleed a little but who cares right.
Now that it is all apart it is a little more fun. Just for future reference, if any of you are changing a water pump...go ahead and take out the radiator...it's a little work but you have way more room to work and play. I did it in this order:
Upper radiator hose - overflow hose - upper fan shroud (Phillips head screw on each side) - fan and clutch (10mm box wrench) - remove water pump pulley ( with the fan off you can take it off without loosening the belts, if you don't have them over tight) - lower radiator hose - remove radiator ( 4 12mm bolts) - water pump (12mm and 10mm socket 2" extension) Pretty easy but you may bleed a little but who cares right.
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