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Old 01-27-2006 | 11:37 AM
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too much/not enough?

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I am in NW florida looking to repaint my burgundy wine metallic/ I have no rust and 4 dings (Hail) on the body, Two estimates for repaint have been $1500 and $3800. Just want to know what everyone is paying in their areas for a full paint on their Z31s

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Old 01-27-2006 | 12:28 PM
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When I have my vehicle painted I think of how long I plan to keep it first. I have two z31, Had one painted by a body shop needing minor body work(Scratch, Small dent, Little rust)repair and it cost me $1,700. The job was good however, I took my next z to be painted by Earl Shieb and got a white pearl paint job, repairs and all for $426.00. This paint job looks great and not much out of pocket. I don't recommend MACO, Good Luck
Old 01-27-2006 | 12:52 PM
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you could probably get a better deal if you did the prep work yourself.
Old 01-28-2006 | 07:42 PM
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You are looking at at least a grand for a good paint job.

You can also, if you don;t care too much and just want it to look nice, go to maaco.

Or.. invest in some supplies or find a friend and do it yourself.
Old 01-29-2006 | 05:11 AM
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I could hook you up, but I wont be in florida for another 3 yrs

But def. do all the prep work yourself, and buy the paint. Doing that you could shave lots off the car, because all they would be doing is spraying. If you decide to paint it yourself, write me, I could give you some pointers. I paint Uncle sams jets, I am pretty sure you can use the same techniques.

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Old 01-29-2006 | 08:49 AM
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The real question is how long do you want your paint to last?

A good factory quality paint job will run you $3000 and up. But most will come with a 5 year warranty against flaking and fading and other paint defects. But most of the time, these type of shops won't guarantee their work if they don't do ALL of it (including prep).

I've seen a few MAACO and Earl Schieb paint jobs that look pretty good. But the owner had done all the prep work themselves.

From every repaint I've seen, 90% of the look and durability of a paint job comes from the prep work before the final color is even applied.
Old 01-29-2006 | 09:26 AM
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and dont forget what color!!! Black takes the most skill to paint.

If you do the prep yourself, be sure to make the surface as smooth as possible. The smoother the surface, the better the paint will look.
The reason some companies will not garantee their work if you prep the surface is the chance that it was not done properly, which will cause the paint not to stick.. example, oil on the surface will cause the paint to peel, if there is dust...even fine dust, it will cause the paint to be rough and not so glossy.

But if your skill with the paint gun aint so hot, do all the prep work and go to macco. The reason some people have not had so much luck with macco is because they offer cheap paint as choices. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!!!! Save up money and buy really good paint, if you spend the time perfecting the surface, and buy good paint, and have someone (macco, ect.) spray you should have a great paint job. I hope this helps.

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Old 01-29-2006 | 07:58 PM
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oh yeah... and don't wet sand with anything less then 1000 grit or you'll have a hell of a time getting the scratches off. I learned my lesson.
Old 01-29-2006 | 09:07 PM
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A moment of silence for oxide......She had a rough life with this Z....let yee be warned, use only 1000 + grit, forgot to mention that.
Old 01-30-2006 | 04:11 AM
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oh yeah... and don't wet sand with anything less then 1000 grit or you'll have a hell of a time getting the scratches off. I learned my lesson.
Wet sanding can start at 320 grit (or is it 400?). In any case, you work your way up to the 2000 grit slowly. You make sure all the old scratches are worked out and the new paper puts all new scratches in.

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Voila!
Old 01-30-2006 | 04:40 AM
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Wouldn't the polishing/waxing make it harder for the paint to stick?,
or am I led to belive that your're supposed to sand after the paint it done?
Old 01-30-2006 | 09:03 AM
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some techniques, you put the primer on then sand, paint then polish, but...DO NOT POLISH/WAX till the paint has its cure time in, I am saying like at least 3 months. If you want to disagree with me on that, you had better go and tell all the PROFESSIONAL paint shops, and come tell my teachers of 20+ years they are wrong. If you put on clear coat that is, clear coat has to fully set up, or you will ruin the finish.
Old 01-30-2006 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nis88300zx
Wouldn't the polishing/waxing make it harder for the paint to stick?,
or am I led to belive that your're supposed to sand after the paint it done?
That's the final step after a complete paint.

The highest you go on the wet sanding before final paint is about 400 I believe. After that, you're going to be too smooth for the paint to stick.
Old 01-31-2006 | 09:14 AM
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Thanks for the tips

Thanks for the opinions, I was just baffled at the huge differential in quotes,
I will continue to shop around, probably get the paint myself and find a reputable painter (I have painted 3 cars in my life and none were that good) It takes a certain talent that I certainly don't posess.
Thanks,
Mike
Old 01-31-2006 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by shogunb
Thanks for the opinions, I was just baffled at the huge differential in quotes,
I will continue to shop around, probably get the paint myself and find a reputable painter (I have painted 3 cars in my life and none were that good) It takes a certain talent that I certainly don't posess.
Thanks,
Mike
Ask them to break the costs down. Or ask them what they are doing for prep work. That's when you'll really see why the prices are so different.
Old 02-03-2006 | 02:15 PM
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Yup! I feel like an fumbling novice allright. But it's the desire to get it right isn't it?

so who here wants to help me tear apart my turbo figure out how to put her back together? I'll give you a cookie!
Old 02-04-2006 | 08:53 AM
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