http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/s...0zx&srchType=T

 

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/s...0zx&srchType=T

Looks like there are a few 280zx's around that area also. Those are pretty easy to keep running, and maintain. As long as nothing major happens. But they wouldn't kill the wallet nearly as bad. Good luck

 

Don't put him in a Z31 or S130... those are so 80's that it's absurd. He'd get laughed at in school, pulling up in a car that's more 80's than KITT.

 

Don't like the digital dash, Zlover?

 

Oh totally forgot about craigslist...couple of 1990+'s there...

 

 

z31 = 84-89ish 300zx, not sure if you knew that.

4/5 out of 10 doesnt sound like good shape.

kbb doesnt really mean crap anymore. its a good way to judge i guess, but you cant tell kbb that the clutch was replaced 2-3 times.

 

KBB isn't good for anything other than common vehicles. For sports cars and anything with a good chance of being considered collectible someday, it's utterly useless.

 

Excuse me, my mistake for talking about anything else other than Z32's. I was just trying to help the kid out. And not kill him financially. Oh, and it was hoov, that brought up another type of Z. Not me. So I thought I would mention the 280zx, as an option. All aside, there is nothing wrong with a S130 or z31 for a first car. Especially fixed up. But besides that. I'll bet you, that the kids laughing. Either have no car at all. Or crappy boring everyday kind of cars. Or they drive their parents boring minivan or sedan.

I usually only stay in the 280zx forums. And for main good reason. I like the people better. (no offense) Besides, loving the 280zx. I just thought I would see what else is going on in other forums. Now i see it. So I will stay out of them. And stay in my comfortable S130 forum.

Have a nice day

 

Oh, one more thing I wanted to mention. I respect all Z cars, no matter what the generation. They have all grown on me. And I appreciate them all. I just wanted to get that out. Besides, can't we all just respect people's opinions on their taste in Z's? And what they think on other things?

Also, who gives a flying crap, if kids laugh, or make fun. I certainly didn't care what kids thought. When I was in school. That is the problem with society today. Always worrying about what people think. Who cares? lol Just be yourself, that is all that matters.

 

:yawn:

Saying the kids would laugh at him was my subtle way of saying the S130 and Z31 are hideous and I'd never ever own one myself... didn't want to say that, though, since the Z31 and S130 owners are apparently coming to the Z32 forums frequently, for this thread. Not many good things came out of the 80's.

You're also telling him to buy a car far older than himself, as if that'll be more reliable. Cheaper to fix, yes, but it will generally break down more often.

 

Yeah I knew the Z31 was from that time period.

Interior, yeah not in too great of shape, but I could live with it my dad doesnt approve of it though

hmm... i didnt know KBB was rendered useless when applied to certain vehicles. Interesting.

 

-Random- Btw didn't paul newman race with a 280zx? -I just know this stuff-

 

Speaking from first hand experience and not out of bias, but the z32 has let me down more time and cost more, then any z I have ever owned, including two z31 parts cars. I have had well over 260k miles on the original motor and trans and did not have a single hiccup and the person that now owns it, has yet to have a single problem despite the neglect and abuse.

The kid has to realize though, that assuming everything else is in tip top shape, that the z32 is just an expensive *** car to own, especially if he can't do the work himself, let alone the crispy/corroded wiring connectors these cars like to get.

 

Z32 engines, when not heavily modified and properly maintained, are just as reliable. There are two guys on twinturbo.net with over 300k miles (I think one just rolled 360k). It's the other things that go bad that you never plan for... window motors, solenoids, bushings, shocks, etc etc etc. My cousin's first car's window cranks went bad. Door handle linkage can break from excessive usage. The only thing stopping me from driving my 73 Datsun is a leaky brake line that's going to be a bitch to replace. It's stuff like that which makes older cars less reliable for a daily driver.

 

The z32's can be reliable, hell my sisters TT is handling the DD aspect just fine. There is no problem with older cars as daily's if you are mechanically inclined and know the car you drive.

I guess what I'm trying to say, is that the z32 is going to be over this kids head when it comes time to do anything other then put gas in it and show off to his friends and that a z31 will be a better car for him, because it's not complicated to fix and parts are cheap and theirs really nothing for him to **** up.

 

Okay, I see what you are saying. All I ask is to respect what I like, and drive. To what you like, and drive. If you ask people on here. I am a real easy person, to get along with. Anyway, like I said. I didn't originally say for him to buy something older than him. It was hoov.

But all aside, I will tell you. That my 280zx, has been one of the most reliable cars I have ever owned.

And us S130, Z31 owners, are coming here. Because we are bored. lol And I like to try and learn, and read about the other Z types. And also the people that drive them. I said things earlier, because I was a little urked. When you put down my favorite Z's. But I am cool now. So we can move on.

So, let's let the kid decide on what he wants to do. Now that everybody here has shared their advice, and opinions on the subject. So let's try to encourage him more, than tell him he can't. Or it is a bad idea. He knows what he wants. And he will make the right decision to him. Whether it turns out to be a good one. Or one he has to learn the hard way. Okay, now I am done. Back on topic.

 

Going for the drive this weekend...

 

Well message deleted, so ill summarize it.

-I have to wait until january of next year to get it as they have not bought a new car yet and she is going to work at a different school
-I will wait, but in the meantime plan to buy my friends E30 BMW 318T for $400, fix it up a bit, and join the local AutoX club so I can gain more knowledge about car contorl, etc.
-Ill browse around on the forums to gain more information thatll help me in future maintenance of it
-She has had the car for 20 years and didntplan on selling it for awhile so everything is fixed she says
-Would you guys look for another Z or just wait it out, I suppose if people recommend waiting until colllege to get it (which I wont) I could wait half a year...

 

Theres going to be a ton of Z's that are in better shape and were treated better then hers.

The interior shoudlnt be trashed, it shouldnt have 3 clutches, it just seems like she beat the **** out of her car. Dont waste your money.

I looked at the washington craigslist link you put up, there are plenty of good looking z's on that page that are the same price that youre looking to spend. Maybe a little more, but id rather pay a little more for a car that wasnt beat on or just driven like ****.

If you have to wait till january to buy hers, keep in mind that thats 6 more months of her treating the car the way she has been for the past 20 years.

There are tons of owners, including my self, that have the same year or older and their seats and clutches have lasted a long time. The issues the car has now are just the ones shes told you, who knows what else is wrong with it.

Find another one, its pretty simple.

 

so how does the difference between an l-6 and a v-6 affect reliability? not getting that picture. considering internals on n/a's are regularly known to go for over 300k, i wouldn't say that the v configuration sacrifices any reliability.

 

First off, the VG30 is far more reliable than a 4, as long as you take care of it and don't drive like a ****tard.

Secondly, V6s have 4 main bearings, inline 6s have 7 main bearings... more main bearings means the load is more spread out, and thus the bearings will wear less rapidly.

 

oh. well it can still do 300k so it's a pretty sturdy engine IMO!

 

By the way, I know a built TT with Sport 600's that has done over 200k miles. (It's a purple converted 2+2, guy used to come to Ultimate Z all the time.)

 

Sorry for posting REALLY LATE but You guys were right, I don't think Id want to be throwing in my money into hers. And over the time that I havent been on the thread I would like/plan to get the twin turbo over the N/A.