ok im stumpd now i dont know what to do. I still have not heard from eaton so im still waiting on a price from them but in the mean time i found out that my friend sean in okinawa can get me like 2 huge as turbos for only a couple hundred and thats with shipping all he has to do is get them put them in a box and then mail it to me so now i dont know what to do its either the supercharger from eaton which will probably cost a couple of thousand or turbos from okinawa that will cost a whole lot less i have heard of people putting turbos on an n/a but can it seriously be done or is it all talk i want and need more power my goal right now is to have the fastes car in South Carolina its going to take time but what would work better im not sure on the size of the turbos but he said they have an out put of like 1000 ps which i know is awsome but aaahhhh and the supercharger well its hard to say i had the specs but i cant find them at the moment its at eaton.com it was the m61 or the m90 i would like to have the m90 but i think I can only get the m61 with the engine that i have but please help me what should i do i want power and i want a lot of it should i go with the turbos or should i go with the supercharger. if i go turbos thats money left over that i have to work with if i go with the charger that means more months on saving for other parts aaaaawwwwwhhhhhrhhrrrrr wtf shoudl i do someone please help me. I need advice please!!!!!!!

thanx
mike

90 3zx2 n/a 2+2
shes a work in progress!

 

You aint going to be able to just bolt those Turbos on. It would end up costing you thousands to have them put on right. That being said. I would go with the Supercharger. I would go with the Supercharger because it will be somthing unique. Just my opinion, I would love to see a supercharged Z.

Adam
1996 300Z TT

 

thats what i thought but im still just not sure but what all do you have to do with the supercharger i know you bolt it on then find the right size belt but what else do you have to do does it involve pipes and what not i think so but im not sure aaahhhhrrrrr why do decisions have to be so hard and complicate why cant life just be simple kajshdahdiuhaseta sorry im starting to ramble ill go now....haha

thanx
mike

90 3zx2 n/a 2+2
shes a work in progress!

 

Have you think about where in the engine bay you can place a supercharger? Don't want to rain in your parade but either instaling a supercharger or converting an NA to TT are not easy tasks.
A supercharger can, and some did but don't know the status, be located at the front of the engine but say goodbye to the A/C.
About instaling just two turbos to your engine even more complicated because you will need to lower the compresion, etc. get turbo exhaust, etc. etc.
If you need more information about converting your NA to TT go to twinturbo.net, get into the technical section and read about how to do it at the top of the page.
My advise, save you money and buy a TT.

 

i have already thought about where to put the supercharger i have not had any a/c for about 4 months now so i figured whats the point of getting it back in when i can just take it out have more room to work with and have a somewhat lighter car but anyways i think im just going to supercharge it but i still just dont know...anyways thanx for all the advice guys i appriciate it...oh and im not getting rid of my car like i said earlier thats like me and my wife getting seperated and that just aint gona happen but thanx i do appriciate the advice.

thanx
mike

90 3zx2 n/a 2+2
shes a work in progress!

 

Here is a copy of the email I got back from Eaton on the pricing;
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" Best candidate would be the M62 or MP62 witch will fit 2.0L to 4.0L fuel injected engines only, cost for these units will range from $1,185.00 to $1,500.00 and that's depending on the nose drive length you will be needing plus the shipping. Now, most applications see a 40% increase in horse power and a 5 to 6 lbs boost, you can gain more but it will depend on how you set-up your application. Please feel free in giving us a call at (805) 642-8833 if interested in doing so."
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I also inquired about what other updates/mods should be done with the addition and they went on to say things like intake, injectors, new cam, headers/exaust. They did say that their "Magna Chargers were meant to work well with stock add-on applications but did not elaborate much more.

..Dan
Calgary, AB

 

dan you truly are the man. Ok its setteld then supercharger it is now all i have to do is save for a little bit longer and then rarity here i come and ooohhh the power BWAHAHAHAHA oh sorry got a little outa control there haha anyways thank you for the info i appriciate it

thanx
mike

90 3zx2 n/a 2+2
shes a work in progress!

 

I also forgot to mention I was doing some reading and not sure if you found this or not on Twinturbo.net but there is a guy who has done this and has it working. Its still being assembled tested, tuned etc.. and he doesn't have any pics but at least he has been through it (unless he is the biggest BS'er around.)

His screen name is "Zerious" do a search for Supercharger and look for all his posts.

..Dan

 

cool thanx

90 3zx2 n/a 2+2
shes a work in progress!

 

well i read most of it but i still dont understand what he is saying. So he put on the s.c. w/o removing the a/c and i got lost from there i understand you have to change the compresion ratio if i want to boost over 6psi but h.t.f. do i do that he just said what he had done not how thats what i really need to know im going to do this i just need to know how. And for the most part how not to mess up my engine when i boost at high psi. Ahhhaarr im still confused but wether or not im still doing this. I do appriciate all the help and now that i have my camera when work gets underway i will post pictures and do a how to as best as i can instead of just talking about it... thanx man...

p.s. ill be taking plenty of pics for this weekend also so stay tuned for that

thanx
mike

90 3zx2 n/a 2+2
shes a work in progress!

 

Engine shop is going to have to lower the compression ratio for you if im correct. Your going to have to go to a performance shop and see what can be done. I can't wait to see what you come up with, even if you get deployed that will just be more money to spend on the car =)

btw. Marines blow....US Army MP corp baby, thats where its at! =p

Adam
1996 300Z TT

 

oh yeah by the way i hate you...haha just kidng bro were all fighting the same war...but yeah your right more money for the car if my wife doesnt spend it all while im away...but yeah i cant wait to se what i come up with either.... its going to be killer and a 40% hp increase i dont think ooooohhh awsome anyways take it easy
laters

mike

p.s. this is my 100 post...oooh yeah!!!!!!

90 3zx2 n/a 2+2
shes a work in progress!

 

Roger that, Good luck man.

Adam
1996 300Z TT

 

thanx man i appriciate it but i dont think anything is giong to happen my guny's calling it operation what if hahahahaha thats funny anyways i guess its an inside joke well thanx and ill talk to ya laters

mike

90 3zx2 n/a 2+2
shes a work in progress!

 

I know what you mean. His descriptions and explanations were kind of out there and really seemed broken up. I don't like their forum layout in twinturbo.net, ZDrivers forum kicks their ***. They do have some awsome technotes though with pictures!! I read up on the Electric SuperChargers yesterday. I was so excited when I first started then 'poof' there went the bubble when I started to think about the real gains at the tires! If you could make another auxilary battery system (adding weight to the car of course) and blast longer current draws through a higher powered electric motor to get past the 1PSI boost it might be worth it. Otherwise it seems like a lot of time and effort spent for a tiny return.
I may look more on designing my own Electric version since my background is in electronics and design. My initial thoughts are creating a lower power drawing, slower to accelerate fan but using a type of flywheel to maintain momentum with a type a valve operated input into the intake. This would allow for build up of pressure, like a compressor, until needed. just a thought at this point!!


..Dan

 

wow that sounds awsome...and let me know if that plan becomes reality b/c i might have to have you make some upgrades for my engine but yes i do know what you mean about getting past the 1psi but again i dont think those guys really know what they are talking about yes its a lot of power but if you can get the right compresion ratios and what not i think it will well be worth the return but once again i am kind of confused about what they were saying but all i know is that sometime here in the future i will have a s.c. nissan 300zx n/a putting out over 300 hp on just a few mods!!!....then once i get rolling on everything else ooohhhhh maybe that post about a 650 hp n/a might come true with mine whoa!!!!! i never thought about that till just now holy [censored] !!!!! awsome
damn ok im going to go calm down now ill talk to yall later
thanx
mike

90 3zx2 n/a 2+2
shes a work in progress!

 

I am seriously thinking about doing this to my NA as well. I was just back on the Eaton Superchargers web site "browsing" and got another itch. I went over to the Magnuson site and grab the physical dimensions diagram and some simple layout drawings.

I am going to try and fashion up a scale model, ok a carboard thing as close to the real deal as possible to see what the fit is going to be like. Have you done any planning on mounts, air flow ?

Let me know how far along your planning is.

..Dan

 

well with work and all i have only been able to do a sketch of what i want it to look like and so far i have it mounted where the a/c compressor used to be and the air flow im not totaly sure yet ive been trying to get in touch with bou but i cant seem to find him but anyways ill let you know when i get a set plan... and ill try to post it up but it might take a while but ill deffinitely let you know... laters

mike

90 3zx2 n/a 2+2
shes a work in progress!

 

hey, if this dreaming becomes reality, and a bulk buy can get us a discount..count me in too, I really love my car, and definetly dont want to go buy a TT.

Good luck!
keep keeping us all informed =)

Chris

 

dont worry man i most deffinitely will and i know that this dream will b/c a reality for me mybe not tomorrow but soon enough
thanx
mike


90 3zx2 n/a 2+2
shes a work in progress!