lifegrddude

The ecu on S130Z cars aren't very adaptive. I don't doubt the technology, but I doubt the Z car ecu will be able to trim fuel due to the presence of hydrogen. You'd have to expand the capabilities of the ecu before you worry about the o2. A wideband would be the solution for greater resolution on the o2 side (most read from 10.0-18.0). It's just the crap 8x8 fuel map that sucks. On a modern car maybe the HHO would be more beneficial since those ecus have numerous sensors and inputs to adjust timing/fuel.

duowing

I could see it working to some extent as that un metered hydrogen would go right in, O2 would see a richer mixture and lean it off. So you'd get an increase, but it was even mentioned that it's too small a setup and 12v isn't really even enough to make the thing work. Maybe I'm wrong? Anyway one big problem is while your cruising along with the throttle open your vacuum is going to drop and you're not going to be sucking enough from that canister. You'd essentially have to set up a secondary fuel pump. Which would be pretty cool. Have them on separate switches to switch between pumps and what not. I'd like to know how to set it up, I'd go buy a cheapo corolla or something and try this out.

KasbeKZ

i've looked into this a lot now. VERY interesting. it turns out, it has been done. in various ways, people have built cars to run on water. i expect we don't hear about it because these people are murdered or paid off if they advertise their findings. because of the difficulty of reducing the gas flow enough to compensate for the hydrogen, it's much more hopeful to work at the pure HHO conversion rather then a hybrid

what i've found is that it's very easy to make any engine run on hydrogen. you need only take off any air restriction, take the timing to TDC to compensate for the ten times faster burn rate, and provide an adjustable flow of hydrogen. it's great because it's cleaner and cooler inside the engine.

what's hard is producing enough hydrogen from the power of the car. but i'm trying it. fuel cells are easy enough to make. so i've got a one cylinder 4 stroke that i'll convert, then run only a large alternator (possibly from a mid sized truck or maybe even a car) as drag on the engine, then run all of the alternators current to the fuel cell. with an efficient fuel cell and a catalyst, it may work. it has worked. i also plan to have a battery between the alternator and the fuel cell to compensate for surges. and a fuse lol. i'll let you know how it turns out.

does anyone have any stainless steel bar stock? i can't find any around here to get started with

CWHammer

We all are, it's called a battery. Ever see a video of one of these exploding. Your battery makes hydrogen as it is.

Niku-Sama

but this is making more depleting the water at a faster rate

entropy31

LiFePO4 FTMFW!!!

KasbeKZ

water can't be depleted. there is always the same amount on the planet

280zx2by2

yeah.... its called the law of conservation of matter and energy

SpeciallySpiked

he's probably talking about clean, freshwater

KasbeKZ

no i've heard that that is a firm rule. there will always be the same amount of water. it may be separated into HHO or change form, but i have not seen any evidence to suggest that water may become a diminishable resource.

CWHammer

Only when the oil companies start putting in containers and shooting it into the vastness of space.

Heat Rave R

No, that's not exactly true, and you've provided the reason why. If water is broken down into separate hydrogen and oxygen atoms or combined with other atoms, then it's not actually *water* anymore. Water is 2 Hydrogen atoms + 1 Oxygen atom; any more, or any less, and it's not actually "water".

KasbeKZ

true. but it is my belief that when water is split as such, when needed, more will form from the abundance of H and O in the atmosphere. i was skeptical of the idea when it occurred to me that the hydrogen was actually being burnt when it was split, but then again, cars always burn oxygen, and we aren't at a shortage of that.