Speeding Ticket...should I fight it?
#1
Speeding Ticket...should I fight it?
yeah, I was driving on the freeway about 20 minutes ago, and a Highway Patrol officer pulled me over, and said that I was speeding on the freeway. I said that I was driving with the flow of traffic, and he said that I was being paced by an airplane that called my license plate in. I was written a ticket for going 85 in a 65 zone, and I know that the traffic in the fast lane was going about 70. I know I was exceeding the speed limit, but I doubt that I was going 85. Is it worth it to try to "fight" the ticket? I really can't afford a point on my license, but I'll go to traffic school to work it off. I didn't have my insurance card on me either, but I doubt that the officer cited me for that (I can barely read his handwriting, but I don't see that on there). If I did want to fight it, what would I have to do? Anyone know how much I'm going to be paying if I decide not to?
#2
An Airplane called in your license plate? What? How does that work? Why would someone go out of their way in an airplaine to call in your plate? How can they judge how fast you were going? WTF, I say fight it because thats just bs.
#3
Originally Posted by v0va
An Airplane called in your license plate? What? How does that work? Why would someone go out of their way in an airplaine to call in your plate? How can they judge how fast you were going? WTF, I say fight it because thats just bs.
#4
it was one of those CHP aircrafts. I don't know if they were able to get my plates, but they identified me somehow, because the officer was able to pull me over and cite me. I was driving my '95 Ford Ranger, one of my father's work trucks.
#5
See the white painted lines or x's along the side of the road? they use those to time you. Not likely the pilot of the plane got your license #. The planes will work with a cruiser on the ground to get you. If they got you by plane, the chances are good you stood out pretty blatantly. I've never fought a ticket yet, cuz I've always been guilty...... lol, I haven't had a moving violation since 1985. Guess I'm just a slow old fogy.
Anyway, you might have an argument in court, if the cop said they got your plate # from the plane. Doesn't seem likely to me that they could do that. Calling the cop out on that one in front of a judge has possibilities.
A google search brought these up........... (traffic tickets fight)
http://www.beattraffictickets.com/
http://www.ticketassassin.com/
http://www.motorists.com/issues/tickets/
Anyway, you might have an argument in court, if the cop said they got your plate # from the plane. Doesn't seem likely to me that they could do that. Calling the cop out on that one in front of a judge has possibilities.
A google search brought these up........... (traffic tickets fight)
http://www.beattraffictickets.com/
http://www.ticketassassin.com/
http://www.motorists.com/issues/tickets/
#6
thanks for all the responces in such a short time. Yeah, I think I stood out, when they clocked me, I was playing the whole "pole position" game, but I highly doubt that I was going 85 as stated. I did do a search in google already for traffic ticket fighting, but I'll take a second look at the sites you gave me.
#8
I did some more research, and I looked up the california vehicle code for which I was cited. I was cited with VC 22349, section a, which states "22349. (a) Except as provided in Section 22356, no person may drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than 65 miles per hour." Section 22356 states that the maximum speed may be increased to 70 miles per hour, but only if signs say so." I don't know if I really have a chance in court, considering the fact that the one law that I am being charged with, I broke. I spoke to a friend who has been in a similar situation as mine, and fought his ticket, and he advised me to go ahead and try to fight the ticket, because in my situation, both the Highway Patrol officer and the pilot of the CHP airplane are to be subpoenaed to appear in court, and chances are one of them are not going to show up. If they do not show up, then I am not going to be charged. I am going to call CHP tomorrow to ask them how they can tell speed limits from their CHP aircraft, and to get some more evidence to help me out in court.
#9
Originally Posted by Fast240Z
I did some more research, and I looked up the california vehicle code for which I was cited. I was cited with VC 22349, section a, which states "22349. (a) Except as provided in Section 22356, no person may drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than 65 miles per hour." Section 22356 states that the maximum speed may be increased to 70 miles per hour, but only if signs say so." I don't know if I really have a chance in court, considering the fact that the one law that I am being charged with, I broke. I spoke to a friend who has been in a similar situation as mine, and fought his ticket, and he advised me to go ahead and try to fight the ticket, because in my situation, both the Highway Patrol officer and the pilot of the CHP airplane are to be subpoenaed to appear in court, and chances are one of them are not going to show up. If they do not show up, then I am not going to be charged. I am going to call CHP tomorrow to ask them how they can tell speed limits from their CHP aircraft, and to get some more evidence to help me out in court.
#10
damn bardabe, you need to lay off of the caps lock, lol. Does anyone know if it is true that if you want to fight the ticket, that you waive your right to take traffic school. Is that true?
#11
I believe that is true about traffic school.
The way they tell what your speed is from an airplane is what Canyon Carver was talking about. They have marks are the highway spaced 1 mile apart. The guy in the airplane times you. They can determine your speed by how long it takes you to cover that 1 mile distance. 60 seconds = 60MPH. 45 seconds = 80MPH. 30 seconds = 120 MPH, etc. Next time any of you get pulled over, ask the officer what the guy in the airplane timed you at. If he can't tell you, then he's full of sh*t. If he still writes you a ticket, then fight it. Or, if the time he gives you doesn't match the speed, then fight it.
The way they tell what your speed is from an airplane is what Canyon Carver was talking about. They have marks are the highway spaced 1 mile apart. The guy in the airplane times you. They can determine your speed by how long it takes you to cover that 1 mile distance. 60 seconds = 60MPH. 45 seconds = 80MPH. 30 seconds = 120 MPH, etc. Next time any of you get pulled over, ask the officer what the guy in the airplane timed you at. If he can't tell you, then he's full of sh*t. If he still writes you a ticket, then fight it. Or, if the time he gives you doesn't match the speed, then fight it.
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