J & S UltraSafeguard Group buy
11-21-2003, 07:56 AM
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J & S UltraSafeguard Group buy
As mentioned in the subject above, I have contacted J&S Electronics, Inc. Depending on how many people are interested, I can get a group buy going for this item.
http://www.jandssafeguard.com/safeguard.html
The reason I am going this way is because the TS ECU, while an awesome setup, is hardcoded into your system. It will pull timing based on RPM, not boost levels, so if you decide you want to drive your car with the SC disconnected, which I do quite often, your timing will continue to be retarded and is not responsive to changes in pressure levels. So, if you live at a high elevation like me and go down in elevation or you want to throw a 9 pound pulley on it, the TS ECU has no way to detect pressure changes.
For those of you who have not thought of timing control for a Forced Induction car, looks like it's time to think again. IMO, the J&S setup is the slickest available.
Not only can you retard based on boost, but because of our spiked timing curve you can retard based on RPM simultaneously.
This is also good for those with N20. The UltraSafeguard can be used to trigger retarded timing when your nitrous switch is flipped.
The slickest part about this setup though, is that if the knock sensor does detect a knock it automatically knows that the last cylinder is the one that needs to have its timing retarded and can do so on a per cylinder basis. Unlike other kits where you have to tap into the crank angle sensor (PITA) and some of them retard all cylinders.
The system taps into the stock knock sensor, but is completely independent of your ECU. You will not see any CEL's because your ECU has no clue that it's there.
In case you missed it, here is the thread where Need4Speed installed the J&S system on his car.
http://350zmotoring.com/forums/show...=&threadid=4987
If you are interested, please post here or at my350z.com. I need hard numbers for who is seriously interested. If you are, please do it ASAP, I'd like to get this Group Buy going by the end of next week.
BTW, I do not work for this company, just trying to get a good price for my timing retard.
http://www.jandssafeguard.com/safeguard.html
The reason I am going this way is because the TS ECU, while an awesome setup, is hardcoded into your system. It will pull timing based on RPM, not boost levels, so if you decide you want to drive your car with the SC disconnected, which I do quite often, your timing will continue to be retarded and is not responsive to changes in pressure levels. So, if you live at a high elevation like me and go down in elevation or you want to throw a 9 pound pulley on it, the TS ECU has no way to detect pressure changes.
For those of you who have not thought of timing control for a Forced Induction car, looks like it's time to think again. IMO, the J&S setup is the slickest available.
Not only can you retard based on boost, but because of our spiked timing curve you can retard based on RPM simultaneously.
This is also good for those with N20. The UltraSafeguard can be used to trigger retarded timing when your nitrous switch is flipped.
The slickest part about this setup though, is that if the knock sensor does detect a knock it automatically knows that the last cylinder is the one that needs to have its timing retarded and can do so on a per cylinder basis. Unlike other kits where you have to tap into the crank angle sensor (PITA) and some of them retard all cylinders.
The system taps into the stock knock sensor, but is completely independent of your ECU. You will not see any CEL's because your ECU has no clue that it's there.
In case you missed it, here is the thread where Need4Speed installed the J&S system on his car.
http://350zmotoring.com/forums/show...=&threadid=4987
If you are interested, please post here or at my350z.com. I need hard numbers for who is seriously interested. If you are, please do it ASAP, I'd like to get this Group Buy going by the end of next week.
BTW, I do not work for this company, just trying to get a good price for my timing retard.
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